Episode 71 - MAHA, The Health State Of The Union & RFK, Jr

The health state of America is at a crossroads, and this episode dives into critical issues shaping our well-being today. Dr. Frederick Schurger and Dr. Beth Bagley tackle the influence of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s stance on chronic illness, censorship, and the broken relationship between public health and food industry. This conversation is not about politics – it is about solutions. From the staggering rise in childhood diseases to the challenges of modern medicine, Drs. Frederick and Beth uncover the things holding us back from achieving progress and what it takes to move forward. Tune in for a candid conversation on reshaping health in a world that desperately needs change.

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MAHA, The Health State Of The Union & RFK, Jr

Introduction

Folks, to start off with, we are not getting political. This is not a political show.

There are some political things that are going to be said in this episode.

They can come off as political but they’re not and they shouldn’t be political.

They shouldn’t be. This is for every person. This is for every American and the stuff that’s affecting the world, every person in the world.

That’s why we’re going to discuss this because it’s topical. By the time this episode comes out, the cycle will have probably run and this will be a little bit old hat but if you have not gone and read both of the two episode and a speech then you’re missing out.

You can read this speech because it is sometimes hard to understand.

True, but let’s put it in perspective. By this point in time, RFK has dropped out of the swing state races and throwing his support behind President Trump. Again, not political. Only stating facts, but you hadn’t noted just some of the things he was saying during his speech. I listened to it afterwards and I thought it was a good speech. His point was he got into this race because he sees the pharmaceuticals and medical industrial complex.

Also, big food and big Ag.

RFK Jr. On Pharmaceutical Funding

Are destroying the health of our country. He cited a number. It was the wrong number. He said 50% of Americans have a chronic disease.

I think he said that was more than. It was 2 out of 3. I wrote it down.

There was this 50% number he threw out.

He was saying that was wrong.

He was fact checked because it was funding for pharmaceutical research. He said 50% of the funding for pharmaceutical and FDA stuff comes from the food industry as the dollars come in and the number is 47%. Folks, F. Kennedy. Is that right?

Yes, Bobby.

I got to remember where we’re at on these guys because JFK’s and RFK’s and Junior’s. Anyways, but he was wrong by 3%.

Let’s cancel it. Speaking of canceling, the first thing he was going over in this speech were about censorship and not just censorship from big media, which is a huge problem. Even during his speech, he was censored. How that happened is CNN cut in when he started talking about some of the stuff that’s a little uncomfortable. Some truth that they didn’t want to hear. They cut in and said, “We’ll go back to this and give you the synopsis. Let’s talk about something else. Look over here.” I was like, “You jerks.”

Fortunately, you can find it. I just typed in RFK Jr. address and the date. I wanted a transcript and there’s many transcripts of it online, so you can read it. He was censored. Himself was censored in the media and by the DNC. Fortunately, he did say the RNC was not censoring him that much. They weren’t working against him to try to get him out. I’m not saying the Republicans are better or anything.

Censoring has two sides to it. One is the DNC/RNC censorship that you’re describing is law fair to keep him off the ballot in certain States. There is the other side of it where you’ve got censorship where they wouldn’t let him speak on any of the major newscasts for months.

At some points, he had 20% of some of the vote. He was a contender. “In 1992, Ross Perot gave 34 in interviews on mainstream networks in contrast during the sixteen months since I’ve declared all the majors. ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, and CNN combined gave only two live interviews for me.” They ran a continuous deluge of hit pieces inaccurate and vile terrible things to say about him. Here’s where it gets into the censorship there. As healthcare practitioners, we have to go out of our way to find information.

The reason is because much of the information is censored that we need to make good healthcare decisions and help our patients make good healthcare decisions. What he’s feeling is all the stuff that we feel all day long trying to get the information we need. Now, he was getting it directly where we see that we can’t get information.

We can’t share our information as readily as we would like.

I’m afraid to share sometimes.

When we start saying, “We could get canceled.” We are describing a situation where our state boards decide what we’re saying isn’t the way they want it presented.

Maybe social media platform that we’ve worked with for a long time says, “You can’t post here anymore because you said something angry about some company that is trying to kill people and poison people.” You’re not allowed to say that.

The other thing that’s interesting that’s going on, again, this is August 29th that this is happening. Not only is the CEO of Telegram being held in France for not turning over effectively, Telegram a backdoor for the government to get into Telegram. Telegram is one of the few end-to-end encryption services that is not, as far as we can tell, compromised by any of the governments at this point in time because they are trying to get him. Effectively, they have charged the CEO. I’m not even exactly sure what they’ve charged him but he’s not allowed to leave the country.

France?

He is also a dual citizen. He might be Russian but I think his current citizenship is France and UAE. One of the Princes’ down there is a good friend of his. There’s some real question marks going on there. That’s happening in France and Brazil. Twitter or X is effectively being shut down because Elon Musk will not comply with their demands for censorship. What we don’t realize is how bad censorship is until the news is around our neck.

Hate Speech And First Amendment Challenges

What about hate speech, Dr.? I don’t want to see hate speech on my platforms. I don’t want to be offended.

How do you know what is one person’s hate versus another’s?

When is hate legitimate? At some point, we should be able to say, “This politician is awful and they should not be in power.” We should be able to say stuff like that.

That is the founding intent of the first amendment in the US, but not all countries have a first amendment like what we do. We barely have it when we look at what the news, media, and the social media companies are trying to dial back. There is now evidence coming out that they should not have said ivermectin.

When looking at what news and social media are doing, we can see that they are trying to dial back the First Amendment.

That’s all over the press.

The lawyers are saying, “We had to do it just to bend the narrative to what was going on in the world at the time.” Again, be mindful as you’re reading and you’re watching your stuff and consuming news. The censorship exists and sometimes, the censorship is self-imposed on people because they don’t feel comfortable enough to say the truth.

That’s so true. We were self-centered. We should have some filters. We shouldn’t say every single thing that comes to our brains, but when it’s during all the COVID stuff, there were things I wanted to say and things that I wanted to scream but I didn’t. Maybe when I cross over and meet God, he’ll be like, “You should have done that.” I’ll be like, “Yes, I probably should have.”

Oddly enough, that’s a conversation that I’ve been having with a couple of people. One gentleman who realized, “Doc, when I’m out of adjustment it’s back. It’s bad. It’s fast. We need to get this cleaned up.” He realized he needed to start care, opposed to, “I’ll get a visit here and there.” For him, he needed the full thing. I had another buddy.

We both talked and he’s like hammering at home that his friend who started care with me needed to get in here. We both made the comment. We both know people who died because we didn’t get them the care they needed. They had an accident or something like that. Sometimes, we have to be a little bit harder but sometimes we also have to realize we have to be able to fight another day.

That self-preservation is good and can be bad.

Maybe we let someone like Eric Nepute. He went hard and he’s coming out on the other end okay.

He might have won a couple of lawsuits. I hope he did because he did.

He was he was citing literature.

We’ve talked a lot on the show about chronic diseases and different ones in particular but RFK did at the end of his speech was talked about how he wanted to saved kids. What was he say? We need to love our kids more than we hate each other, which was like shocking. It was incredible.

I’ve got people who are lifelong Democrats who were like, “I can get behind that sentiment.”

People just don’t realize how sick kids are and they know a lot of sick kids, but they don’t realize how many kids are sick. Many kids are on chronic illness diseases, diabetes, and pre-diabetes and just tons of autoimmune issues. He said, “A typical pediatrician would see one case of diabetes on kids during his entire 40 to 50-year career. One out of every three kids who walks into his office is diabetic or pre-diabetic and the mitochondrial disorders that cause diabetes all so called Alzheimer’s, which is now classified as diabetes.

He’s talking about type-3 diabetes, which is interesting as we’ve talked about that. It’s costing this country more than our military budget every year. This has been an explosion of neurological illnesses that I never saw as a kid, ADHD, speech delay, language delay, Tourette syndrome, narcolepsy, FCA, Aspergers, and autism. In the year 2000, the autism rate was 1 in 1,500. Now autism rates, 1 in 36, according to the CDC, nobody’s talking about how 1 in every 22 kids in California has autism. Seventy-seven percent of our kids are too disabled to serve in the United States military. They couldn’t even pass the exams or get in the test. He’s citing facts. Nobody once did that. CNN turns it off. Nobody wants to hear this.

Autism rates today in kids are at one in 36 according to CDC. Nobody’s talking about how one in every 22 kids in California has autism.

It’s because they can’t argue it. They can’t spin it.

I like how we turned it around. It’s like what is happening. We could list many things under there but he cites two things that he thinks are causing this. He goes, “70% of American child’s diet is ultra-processed, which means industrial manufactured food.” Food that used to be like eggs, butter, milk, and fresh bread. Even bread can be part of it but you made it or your grandma made it or somebody made it. You would have food that was made. It would mold, so things that don’t last forever. They’re not in wrappers.

Speaking of a wrapper thing, I was joking with somebody. She had to pick up her four-year-old. She was babysitting and she says, “I got to go.” This is a 80-year-old woman babysitting her four-year-old grandbaby and she just got back from out of town. She needs to go shopping, but was informed at 6:00 AM she’s babysitting. I’m like, “What is Grandma buying?” I know what my grandparents bought for me when I would go over and visit them and that freezer was full of HoHos and twinkies.

The freezer, that was the best way to have a hoe back in the day but that HoHos is still sticking with me and I’m trying to get rid of it. The one that my nieces and nephews that my brother complains about that they do is they will get the drumsticks out. Have you seen the videos about melted drumsticks yet?

I don’t want to because I think they’re delicious but they don’t melt in the day. No.

They would take one out. They’d put it in a bowl or some dish and they’ve let it melt overnight. When they broke over the chocolate topper or whatever it was. No, it was solid. It’s like some weird texture marshmallow substance. It’s chemical. If you have ice cream in a cone and you leave it out, even the soft serve stuff, which we both know.

It will melt.

It’s horrible. That stuff will melt.

It’s because it is real food to an extent.

It’s more real, but whatever they’re doing with this stuff now is so bad and so mixed up that it does not turn into a puddle like you would expect it to. It’s not real ice cream.

I can imagine why manufacturers want to do this. It’s because you’re taking it from the store where it’s in the freezer. Transporting it in your cart and then in a bag in your car and all the way home.

You’re even getting it to the store and onto the shelves.

What that does is, it can freeze and unfreeze without losing its texture and that’s disgusting. He said, “These foods consists primarily of alter processed sugars, ultra-processed grains and seed oils.” Things that we’ve been talking about. Whenever he was talking, I was like, “I could hear it.” Many of laboratory scientists formerly work for the cigarette industry, which purchased all of big food companies.

In 1870s and ‘80s, deployed thousands of scientists invent new chemicals to make the food more addictive and these ingredients didn’t exist 100 years ago. They didn’t learn this 30 years ago. Humans biologically are not able to adapt to eat them. Hundreds of chemicals are now banned in Europe, but they’re all in our food. American food is the most toxic and disgusting. I’m going to put food. Its food-like substances. It’s not food.

I saw something interesting, German Fanta. If you see a bottle of German Fanta, it is more this yellowy drink because it cannot have all the extra food coloring.

We just did an episode on that.

That brings all those oranges because of those reds. The red food dies and the yellow food dies to make that super bright orange. They don’t have that in Europe, so it’s a problem.

He said, “The second culprit is toxic chemicals in our medicine, our environment, pesticides, food additives, pharmaceutical drugs, and toxic waste. We’ve talked about the roundup that’s in everybody’s blood. It’s an assault our children and ourselves. He was talking about children. It’s on all of us, but the children he knows he can help. We’re doomed we’re going to get fixed.

As adults, we have done most of our stuff. We’ll keep on putting heads on straight but we had good childhoods. We had these good years coming up where we didn’t have to worry about going to the doctor once a quarter to figure out, “Johnny’s infection is back again. What do we do about that?”

He’s got the eczema and asthma. It’s fine because there’s pills for all that. It’s great. Guess who makes the money when there’s pills for that?

Big pharma.

It’s this revolving door and that’s what he went into later of the revolving door, the FDA, the CDC, the government and then the big companies. They just go around and around. One person scratches the next person’s back, then they get this. It’s disgusting and it’s got to stop. I do believe that he can help. I’m so excited that he is going to join our next president, I hope, in the fight for this.

The thing about it is, so many of us are on board with what he’s saying that I don’t think he could get backstabbed at this point because he would just go and say, “This is what’s happening,” and we would be like, “We’re going to start our start protesting,” because this has to change. I think RFK Jr is highly intelligent. Do I agree with all his politics? No. I don’t agree with all the Trump politics. I don’t agree with. I don’t agree with your politics. I have my own political beliefs and I just need to find somebody in groups that are doing things that I know could make the world better.

Directionally, that’s what he is trying to do and he recognizes that of the two campaigns, there’s one that is more entertaining to what he has. That’s what become a big of different ideas that are all American ideals to get us healthy again.

Understanding The FDA-Pharma Relationship

Here’s one thing you just said. I’ll just say FDA is USDA. That’s the other letters that I can’t remember. Seventy-five percent of the FDA funding doesn’t come from taxpayers. It comes from pharma. Pharma Executives, consultants, and lobbyists cycle in and out of these agencies with President Trump’s backing and going to change that. We’re going to staff these agencies with honest scientists and doctors who are free from industry funding. We’re going to make sure the decisions of consumers, doctors, and patients are informed by unbiased science.

A sick child is the best thing for the pharmaceutical industry because it’s a lifelong client. I added the lifelong client part. When American children and adults are sick with chronic condition, they’re put on medication for their entire life. All of a sudden I was like, “He’s a chiropractor. He’s speaking our language.”

A sick child is the best thing for the pharmaceutical industry because it is a lifelong client.

The big thing that is going on, we’ve talked a little bit about Ozempic. These this classification of drugs that helps you lose a bunch of body weight fast. That’s great. It’s a $1,000 a month for the insurance companies to pay because you’re not going to afford that out of pocket and people are getting sick. I heard one person was vomiting, I want to say.

Some people’s digestive tract just shuts down and then removed.

The worst part is, it is not a fix. It is literally abandoned. Yes, you lose the weight but as soon as you come off, the weight comes back on.

It’s because all the gross food. You could make some changes. I’m not saying that there aren’t people that are making changes. They can, but a lot of them it’s just an instant fix type thing. Over the course of six months, they get into their ideal body weight, they’re excited and then they’re like, “I’m now back to normal.” Normal is gaining a whole bunch of fat facts.

The crazy thing is the mass loss includes muscle mass and if you did it through normal natural means of exercising, walking and calorie cutting. We’re only talking maybe a couple of hundred calories a day. We’re not talking massive famine here. You get the same results. It’s not significantly better and it doesn’t keep the weight off at the end. It’s a major problem. We’ve talked about that in the past before. What else do you got on RFK?

I wanted a good transition here. It’s what he was talking about. He named a few people and it was Casey and Calley. He named them in his speech.

Calley has been on his team for a while.

Calley has been on his campaign. It’s because he’s so knowledgeable about this stuff. He mentioned to read this show.

Honestly, Tucker Carlson has been hitting it out of the park with his show lately. This one is great.

You sent it to me. What’s the name of the show?

It’s just the Tucker Carlson Show.

The name so that people can look up.

Calley and Casey Means.

The truth about Ozempic, the pill.

Calley and Casey are siblings. They were raised to be critical of things. They raced to ask questions. It’s a good show. The clips on the internet that I came across early on seemed weird. I think they cut them weird. As if the two siblings were talking over each other. They were not. They were both going at it. Casey is the one with the better understanding of not academics as much as she understood the science is better. She’s the doctor.

She’s the medical doctor and Calley has been political. What else does he do?

I think he’s got an MBA. I think Casey went to Stanford and then I want to say he went to Harvard or something like that. Anyways, he’s got a business degree and MBA. He was working for Coca-Cola. He’s worked for some of these big food companies. I can’t remember her specialty off top my head, but as she’s going down, she realized a couple of things. One that medicine is so fractured across all these specializations.

They don’t see that when one doctor sees a problem, it doesn’t get communicated to the other doctors. There seems to be a disconnect between someone saying, “Your kidney is over here and your heart is over here. They have nothing to do with each other. Except for we know that they do.” There are only a handful of doctors who are cardiac and nephrology. It’s crazy that those disconnects exist, but they do because people have become more specialized. Thank God for specializations because there are some people.

I was talking with the patient of mine who’s their soon to be child is having all sorts of weird stuff and Saint Louis has one of the top two people in the country that know how to deal with this situation. The doctor told him and his wife, “The next three months are going to be hell and then the baby’s born, the next three months after that are going to be held because the child’s going to be in the NICU. There’s going to be like three surgeries right off the bat or within the first couple of weeks to fix the problem.” Not a genetic thing. Only one of these weird things that sometimes happens.

There’s a lot of weird things that are sometimes happening, by the way, but we won’t go into that in this episode.

We talked enough.

Before all the crazy shots that we all got, there were bad things that happened. I’m not saying that every single bad thing that happened is because of that, but there sure is a lot more now.

Anyways, getting back to it. There’s so many specializations that make the body look like it’s individual little pieces and it’s not. It’s one whole thing with individual structures that are interacting with each other in ways that we still don’t appreciate. I saw our good friend Keith, published a song. That some brain gut connection that we’ve known has been there finally got published and says, “This is how it’s working and it’s been obvious for years.” Yet it just gets published in 2023.

There is so much going on with the way the body is supposed to work together. Unfortunately, as Casey realized in the system as she was going through her residency, she had gotten to a point where you can’t spend the time with patient like you’re supposed to. You have fifteen minutes tops to get through with a patient because you’ve got another one waiting in the next room. In order for, not you as a doctor, but your hospital system to be profitable. You’ve got to get to the next person. The way they become profitable is not only by certain codes that they bill, but also some medications that sometimes come through their system or get kicked back from the pharmacy to the doctors.

That’s got to stop.

It has to.

Also, there’s kickbacks from the insurance companies to the doctors for percentage of vaccines given to the kids. On the COVID vaccine, there were there were very lucrative kickbacks given to medical providers for how many people they got vaccinated.

You mentioned it but I want to reiterate it, pediatric offices pushed the childhood vaccines because a percentage of their income is coming from the vaccines. If they hit certain thresholds for the number of patients that they gave vaccines to, they get a bonus.

Which is why if you refuse vaccines in the office, they will kick you out and I can tell you firsthand that happens.

You can say, “Why does my child that has never seen a needle need a Hep V vaccine?” The hepatitis.

It’s transmitted disease for drug user disease.

For drug users and prostitutes, which they sometimes they cross over but if they never have that and if Mom’s not a prostitute or a drug user.

Try not to. On this interview with Tucker, how did Casey and Calley come together to have these conversations? Other than being siblings, what is their relationship?

They’re siblings, and they were always close. They’re the only two kids, I believe and as I understand it. Parents were very supportive of them. They were less concerned about the grades as much as they were about exploring ideas. In fact, that was one of the things. I believe that’s the way she phrased it. They kept on exploring ideas and Casey’s almost done. When her parents found out that she was going to be dropping back, they were more interested in them finding the truth than they were in them achieving accolades.

They certainly come from the side of, I want to say Washington DC or Virginia. That entire area. I can’t remember where they grew up, but the parents were generally are like, “My child went to Stanford. Mine went to Harvard. Mine is a doctor. Mine is a pediatrician.” It’s a lot of that. The parents are like, “You find the truth and you set your path. You do your thing.” She’s about $500,000 in debt for education and she realizes that entire path is going to drive her to working for a hospital system that will effectively pay for her. All her student loans off will give her a nice income, bonuses, etc.

She realized that she was not going to be able to help people, and this is not something new. I’ve heard several medical doctors going through this. Shawn Baker who is one of the leaders in the carnivore group. His company is Revero where he’s trying to do research showing that people on a carnivore diet reversed a lot of their chronic diseases very quickly.

Only because you’re eating zero processed food at that.

He was an orthopedic surgeon. He was having these patients come in before they needed a surgery but clearly, they were going that direction. He he’s like, “What’s your diet? How do we fix your diet so that your diabetes isn’t such a problem so that your weight goes away?” We’ve talked about my weight best, haven’t we?

I don’t listen to most of the things you say.

I know. I get a weight vest months ago. I love wearing it for a walk. Half of the reason I need to get have you checked me when we visit is because I’ve been walking in my low back is just like, “I don’t like that. Something is not as balanced as it should be,” which suggests I’m out of balance. I’m only adding an extra 30 pounds to my frame. I’m sitting at 195. I jump up. Let’s call it 230 easy math. That’s a lot of weight on a frame that’s not used to that. The reality is, only because you are bigger around doesn’t mean your skeleton got bigger. It’s still the same size as a normal adult. They don’t get whiter.

You’re not just big boned. You’re saying that whole thing when people say they’re big boned, it’s not true.

They’re not. Sorry.

I’ve seen the MRIs. You could be tall but you’re not big boned.

They come in and see Dr. Baker. He’d be like, “You’re going to have this problem. If we fix this hip, that knee is going then that hip and that one. You’ve got to make the lifestyle changes.” He was basically run out and almost lost his license. He was brought before the board because he was trying to fix them through diet and exercise opposed to, “You’re here and the insurance will pay for a new knee.”

Other doctors have gone and before that, I’m excited to hear the means are trying to be a little bit more vocal and a little bit more in mainstream at this point. It is curious because she’s going through all the stuff. They were talking about seed oils and the food pyramid, which we’ve talked about in the past. At one point in time, he points out, “I know it’s a food plate but doesn’t matter.”

Nutrition Myths And The Food Pyramid

They would emphasize all these carbs, grains, and starches. All of which commits can convert immediately to sugar in the body. If you prioritize from the bottom of the pyramid up because a pyramid builds upon itself, before you even got to a protein you would have twelve servings of carbohydrates. That’s fills you up.

That’s what we learned. It was the correct way when we were a kid. The food pyramid was all over the walls at public schools talking about how you eat your whole grains, cereals, rice, and your breads. That’s how you become healthy and everyone got sick.

Americans followed the food pyramid and ate whole-grain cereals, rice, and bread. But everyone still got sick.

In fact, I was checking with the young lady. I told her that she was going to talk to a nutritionist about something and I’m like, “Remember, the first thing you should do is prioritize your protein and get at least 100 grams a day and that’s not enough.”

You never know when you’re walking into a nutritionist office if they’re going to be an actual nutritionist or a medical minded one. If their medical minded and if you’re a diabetic, they’re going to be like, “You got to have your whole grains.” I’m like, “If you’re diabetic, you could live without ever eating a whole grain again and you can be fine. Maybe not even have to take pills anymore.”

I don’t know if you’re aware of this, but my wife Jean was thinking hard. As we were running the practice, she was getting into all the nutrition stuff and she wanted to do a nutrition style thing. She’s like, “I’ll go get the certification.” She found a couple things that were on line but all of them, in order for you to be certified and to go through the entire program, you have to do what is currently the government standards which are complete garbage. They’re crap, so she opted not to bother.

It’s not worth it. It’s silly. A friend of mine, her husband was diagnosed with diabetes. They went to the nutritionist through medical things hoping that it would help. Honestly, he has dropped some weight. Not using Ozempic, and he’s done some amazing things cutting carbs down. He knew that himself, but one thing she asked because he tends to drink too much beer. She’s like, “What about beer?” She goes, “Alcohol will lower your blood sugar.” She said, “What?”

I looked it up and as you’re drinking alcohol, there is a drop that happens but it doesn’t last. It’s a pork chop in every can of beer. All of the sudden, it opened up his brain like, “I can still have my beer.” He still drinks too much beer. It’s the little things that come out of people’s mouths like that because she’s in a place of authority that she’s telling them how to solve the diabetes problem.

Which is only going to make it worse.

It’s going to make it so much worse. They still joke about it. We’re like, “Drink a beer and keep your blood sugar low.”

Any case, we could go on and on but that’s not the direction to go. I’m going to hit some other stuff that they were talking about. We talked about the co-optation of the big pharma and how the food industry, big pharma and all the regulation agencies are basically surfling the wagons and they run around.

They’re probably going back. I t’s just a giant orgy. It’s disgusting.

It is and it’s the worst kind. It’s ball of snakes. This was interesting because Tucker pointed out, “You can’t address this topic at all because if you even bring it up, you are wrong.” They brought up the birth control pill as having issues and side effects. We’ve talked about this in the past. There are links to the birth control pill to dementia and other health issues. There are also some questions. I had the same couple that I was talking about earlier that have the real major problem with their baby. He said to me because they’ve been together for over a decade longer than that.

They’re 39 and 40 trying to have a baby for the first time. If he had to do it over again, he said he would have done it back when we were 26-27 because we are pretending that taking this birth control is maybe a short-term thing for some people. Maybe they need a little bit of it to help figure out stuff, but when you use it as a means to say, “I’m going to get ahead in this world. I’m going to do my thing,” when there was a short window in the first place to be able to produce a child then we need to start asking different questions.

The fact that, we, as Americans can’t afford to have children in our twenties because everything is so expensive.

It’s worse than now.

Healthcare is ridiculous. It’s very frustrating because I get why people are waiting until they’re 30s or 40s to have kids but it’s too late.

Americans cannot afford children in their 20s because everything is so expensive. Many people wait until their 30s or 40s to have kids but it is too late.

It’s only gotten worse now because of the way the inflation has been going where you can’t even afford groceries for the month because the money runs out before the month does. A second thing that was interesting that Casey mentioned. She’s a young lady who’s got her career head of her. I commend her for choosing that path, but it was so bad that she doesn’t even know how to cook for herself much less somebody else.

She felt that was beneath her to learn how to cook because she’s going to be a doctor. She realized how stupid that idea was because all of us need to eat and we should all know how to make a meal. I don’t care if you’re male or female. You should be able to figure out how to cook something up. Even if you don’t have a fancy Grill and a brisket.

Don’t say brisket. I’m hungry. I am angry at you for saying that.

I had to.

The fact that people don’t know how to cook. They don’t know how to make it egg. They don’t how to cook an egg.

Let’s back up. Cooking eggs are difficult. When you get right down to it, you will screw up more eggs cooking them than you think.

You can also eat everything you destroy.

I suppose that is true, but no. In all fairness, you should know how to cook something and eggs are easy because they shouldn’t be cheap.

It should be.

You can play around with some cheap eggs to figure out what you like. Throw away the stuff you don’t and then go buy some good eggs and make that all the time. That’s what I do.

When we complain about the cost of food, one of the things we need to realize is if we focus on real food, which is expensive but you don’t need so much of it. We don’t need all the crap. You don’t need all the stuff in the center aisles. You could focus on eggs, fish, and meat. If you’re cooking it yourself and not going to a restaurant and eating it, it is a lot more affordable.

I’m just trying to do some math in my head but my 6 eggs and bacon, a medical’s life.

I’m hungry.

I know, but my six eggs and bacon.

A half a dozen eggs and bacon. That’s usually your dinner or breakfast?

That’s dinner, but I could do that for meals a day. That would fill me up for a day. Let’s say that your carton of eggs is $4, so half a dozen is $2.

If you’re buying the cheap eggs.

I’m not.

I know, but you’re saying it’s for people.

You could buy cheaper eggs but I’m just using this as an example.

I’m just saying. In Saint Louis, for the good eggs, it’s more like $7.

Find a farmer who’s got chickens.

I got eggs from one of my patients.

Let’s say $2 to $3 for your eggs then I’m getting good bacon but it’s bacon ends. I’ve got a good price point on that, but let’s say you’re getting the higher end bacon. Let’s just call it $10 a pound and a quarter of that which is four ounces, which is normally what I dice up and throw in there. We’re at $2.50 and $3.50 for your $7 eggs. We’re right there at $6.

For one meal. That’s full of nutrients and all of the fat and protein you would need for that meal.

Exactly, and vitamins. I was chatting on a group of guys asking, “What helps you give you a lift when you’re feeling down? What supplements are you using?” I’m like, “Use eggs,” because if you eat 4 to 6 eggs, you will feel amazing.

Stay hydrated, too.

They’re like, “What supplements do you need? What do you guys like?” They threw out a bunch of stuff. All the male hormone enhancing stuff that give you that pump and make you feel better, but nothing like an egg. In fact, I still remember Tim Ferriss’s 4-Hour Body. When that book came out, he had a recipe in there that was called the salmonella shake. That was four eggs raw. The whole thing was raw. You’d use raw milk, almond butter and chia seeds. You drink one of those and the amount of energy you would have. It was like taking steroids, is what he described it as. Sure enough, I did a double one day and I was 10 pounds heavier than the next day. It’s like steroids and retaining water. No.

Food does not have to be expensive.

That’s $6 meal that I just described, if you needed chips, your bag of chips is at least $6 or if not $4. That’s money that you’re not going to get any good calories and nutrition out of. I’m sorry. You’re just not.

Even if you bought the organic chips. Less trash. It’s less trash but it’s still trash. It’s not something that your body needs. I’m not saying I never eaten chips. I’m not going to be like that person that says, “I never eat.” I can eat a chip but that’s not part of my everyday meal planning. I don’t typically buy it a very often.

We need to figure out how to do this because unfortunately, we’re slowly seeing an erosion of our food supply pushing us to say, “Let’s make fake meat because that’s better for the environment.” Yet there’s no evidence that it’s worse for the environment. In fact, any factory plant is probably worse for the environment. They’re just buying all the carbon credits that you haven’t realized. You will eventually need just to survive in the world.

We got to stop this. If you have it, we both recommend that you guys look up the full interview with Tucker Carlson and also look up the total speech from RFK Jr.

On top of that, RFK was on Tucker’s show and that one’s a very good episode too because it’s straightforward and they’re having fun.

It was an interesting one to listen to just because it was interesting for you and I to talk about.

Tucker is hitting it out of the park on his interviews. They’re two-hour interviews. They’re 1 to 2 hour interviews. They’re in-depth and having fun. There are people that you have not heard elsewhere. I would highly recommend listening to them. My favorite part of the RFK interview with Tucker was if he lets you be the CIA, would you run the CIA? He’s like, “I would love to but the Senate wouldn’t let me through because there’s enough people in the CIA who have people on the committees that would shut down.”

Never confirm it, which is a whole other problem that they need to work on. It’s going to be an uphill battle, but I’m excited to see what’s going to happen.

It’s going to be curious. The other funny thing in that interview was especially when they were talking about getting back to some of the law fair. When New York was giving him grief about not having a New York resident that he’s spending too much time in California where his wife lives. He went down the list of the licenses and stuff that he maintains in New York City, along with the home and everything else and he’s going down. He’s law license is from New York. He’s only had a law license in New York. His driver’s licenses there. He pays property taxes and income tax there. He has his hunting and fishing license there. That’s when Tucker interrupted and said, “Those are the important ones.”

Tucker loves to fish.

I don’t blame him because I’m looking forward to hunting season. This will come out right before hunting season starts up, so I’m looking forward to that.

Do we want to go over anything else or do you think we can wrap it?

Closing Remarks And Podcast Recommendations

Those are the big ones, folks. I highly encourage you to listen to these two shows. If you’re like, “I don’t want to get political.” Great. Both of these are not political. They are saying, “What will drive the country into a better place?” That’s why I like these. It’s asking the questions who can solve these problems and quite honestly, they’re not going to get sold otherwise. It’s just that simple.

At least, there’s a plan. They don’t know exactly how it’s going to go but there’s a plan to move forward with some of these problems. I hate to say, the other side is perpetuating the problems.

I don’t want to say bread lines but I’m I said bread lines.

I don’t want to eat bread like that. Can we have bacon lines?

Wouldn’t that mean that grand? Any case, Dr. Bagley, where can they find you?

I’m in St. Louis, Missouri. I’m on the West side. You can find me at PrecisionChiropracticSTL.com.

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We’re victims.

No, we’re not victims.

You’ve seen what’s happened and we still, people will say, “You’re a quack.” I’m like, “Yes, that’s what I am.”

Quite honestly, we helped people day in and day out. Again, we don’t want to be thrown in jail for just having a conversation and having an idea. If you have a bad idea, air it and have somebody discuss it so we can have better ideas and make the bad ideas, just like, “That was dumb. Let’s move on to something smart.”

That’s what conversations are about the alternative media, which is quite amazing, including podcasts are amazing because now we can get this information to more people and there’s less censorship with alternative media. The problem is you can’t get it unless you look for it and if you share it.

Share it, wide and far. Even if it’s not this episode. Find another episode that you’re like, “This is my favorite episode. I’m going to share it.” Alright, folks, we will be back with another episode.